Laurie Ditto was taken supernaturally to both Heaven and Hell.  She has such an interesting perspective on following Jesus that we brought her back for a special bonus episode of The Miracles & Atheists Podcast.

Laurie is the author of The Hell Conspiracy and Encountering Heaven,  Laurie has had multiple visions of Heaven, and she’s had a horrifying eye-witness account of Hell.  In this conversation we take it back to what the Bible calls, “The Fear of the LORD.” It’s a confusing topic that many people have questions about.  It’s our goal to hopefully answer as many of those questions as we can.  It’s a special bonus episode we’re doing for you and we did not invite any atheists on for this conversation, but we’ll have them back on next week.


  • Why the BONUS episode? [2:07]
  • Welcome Laurie Ditto! [4:05]
  • What is THE FEAR OF THE LORD? [5:57]
  • Why is it called the FEAR of The LORD? [12:10]
  • Hell and punishment and God’s nature [15:29]
  • THE FEAR OF THE LORD holds it all together [17:48]
  • You become His slave [19:30]
  • Why THE FEAR OF THE LORD is a gift [20:21]
  • Laurie’s experience in Heaven [22:30]
  • Laurie’s experience in Hell and why she went [24:56]
  • How is Hell fair? [28:33]
  • Understanding God’s Kingdom [32:51]
  • The power of sin [35:00]
  • What does it mean to repent? [40:49]
  • What angels are like [45:45]
  • The only thing left is castration [47:52]
  • The Christian’s job [52:57]
  • Start hating your sin and loving righteousness [58:00]
  • Laurie’s closing words [1:01:35]
  • Nick’s biggest takeaway [1:03:20]
  • Marcus Plating’s Final Words of Wisdom (WOW) [1:05:34]


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